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« on: November 10, 2009, 02:14:04 PM »

Throughout the game, most players saw the Ancients as a primitive race only concerned with cultivating the earth. Surprisingly, this conception may be wrong. While the Ancients did indeed live a simple life, it's suggested they also held technology beyond that of the present Shinra Corporation. In particular, evidence has been found to suggest they actually travelled in space.



...During Cloud's flashback of Nibelheim, Sephiroth discovers his 'heritage' and hisses towards Cloud,

"This Planet originally belonged to the Cetra. Cetra was an itinerant race. They would migrate in, settle the Planet, then move on...

"At the end of their harsh, hard journey, they would find the Promised Land and supreme happiness."

Pay particular attention to the phrase "They would migrate in, settle the Planet, then move on..." This sentence is rather ambiguous in meaning. Sephiroth was either suggesting the Ancients would migrate and settle across different areas of the Earth's surface, or they would migrate and settle entire planets. If Sephiroth was suggesting the Ancients migrated and settled across Earth's surface, he should have said, "They would migrate and settle parts of the Planet, then move on to other areas..."

However, Sephiroth is suggesting the Ancients would migrate and settle the entire Planet itself. Once achieving this, they would move on to another planet until they find the Promised Land, a planet itself...



During the Temple of the Ancients quest on Disk 1, you'll encounter a bizarre humanoid creature in the maze. When you finally catch up with it, Aerith will comment,

"Those are the spirit bodies of the Ancients. They've been away from their planet for a long time to protect this temple."

Now seriously, what can this mean? Aerith says 'their planet' as if the creatures aren't from Earth. Space travel, anybody?

okay, if the Ancients did indeed travel in space, where are the rockets they must have built? Well, if you visit Bone Village, you'll find the wreck of an excavated fighter jet which is clearly beyond the technological levels of the Shinra Corporation. Perhaps the Ancients built this technological wonder?

The only other alternative is the Ancients travelled to other planets by 'star gates', a process probably very similar to Cloud's travel through the Lifestream during the ending. This is mainly speculation, but the game suggests the Ancients may have travelled in space one way or another. At least two statements have been found in the game supporting this fact.

The Shera (Sierra) airship in Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus may be a Cetra starship, and it may also have originated on another world: specifically, Spira from Final Fantasy X.

    According to the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega, the Ancients came to the planet aboard a space craft of some sort. If you've played FFVII: Dirge of Cerberus, when you're aboard the Sherra, Cid's newest airship, one of the crew mechanics in the engine room tells you that Cid didn't build this airship. Rather, he excavated it from some ruins. If you look at the outside of the Sherra, its body resembles something you'd find in FFX...

    The inhabitants of FFX built a spaceship and migrated to a distant planet, are, in fact, the Ancients of FF7.


If you want to read an interview with the writer of FFVII, FFX and FFX-2, Kazushige Nojima then follow this url: http://www.willamette.edu/~ejohnson/nojima.htm
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 04:48:22 PM »

Wow ...... strangely ... that was very convincing..... great job Dissidia_Aerith...
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2009, 09:13:00 AM »

Well there does seem to be some documents to support this theory.


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Nojima: Yes, actually. After Shinra quit the Gullwings he got enormous financial backing from Rin and went to the Farplane to start extracting the Mako energy used by the Vegnagun. But the system for utilizing this energy could not be completed in his generation, so far in the future when space travel was possible, the Shinra Company was founded on another planet... or something like that. That would be a thousand years or so from this game's story.


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Yuna: What are you looking at?

Shinra: Farplane data.

Shinra: The more I study it, the more fascinating it gets. There's limitless energy swirling around in there.

Yuna: Limitless energy?

Shinra: The life force that flows through our planet...I think.

Shinra: With a little work, we could probably extract the energy in a useable form.

Brother: Sweet!

Shinra: Of course, that'd take generations.


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http://www.willamette.edu/~ejohnson/intro.htm
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 05:47:20 PM »

 :owow so ffX and ff7 are connected that's cool! nice job tell me if you find any thingelse out
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 07:22:03 PM »

If you notice, the earlier games are connected too. In final fantasy X , Yuna says  something like that summoners would always wear horns  in memory of the ronso, if you look at the summoners in earlier games, they have a horn on their heads, as a part of their costumes
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 05:16:16 AM »

(sorry a little bit of topic) But Tebian...... posting a scene from......... FFX-2????  Shocked




Hehe, sorry but the more i read on 7, the more i DONT understand it  huh So many theories and complots. WOW
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 10:06:10 PM »

Wow... now that is really... I need to find a compilation site to go over all the mythos and stuff again.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2010, 10:50:20 AM »

Ahhh , i still remember the mystery about reviving Aerith with white Materia XD
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2010, 03:34:11 PM »

Ahhh , i still remember the mystery about reviving Aerith with white Materia XD

i never believed that though...
but when i think alot on it ( thinking on early aeriths development plans square had)
maybe there was something that was gonna bring her back, or maybe not... who knows?
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2010, 04:24:47 PM »

its very interesting WoW
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2010, 07:53:05 AM »

At first i didnt understand why she gave her live. U really need to play the whole game to understand the many layers of the story  huh
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 09:57:55 AM »

However, Sephiroth thought that Jenova and he were part of the Cetra, which is not exactly true.  He may also have gotten HIS facts mixed up.  Though, I always did see a similarity between DoC and Final Fantasy X.  Your point is very convincing, but I believe the Cetra were the true inhabitants of the Planet before Jenova came.
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2010, 10:58:20 AM »

It is really funny because when I played through FFX-2 and heard that conversation between Shinra and Yuna, I knew it was an allusion to FF7.  It wasn't until years later that I read those interviews with the developers where they state their intention was to tie the worlds of FFX and FF7 together that it finally clicked.

So are the Weapons in FF7 long forgotten machina produced by the "cetra" of Spira?  One can only speculate :P
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