BioWare: Final Fantasy XIII Not an RPG

[Tebian-DJ]

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(this was humor and great to see you phoe)

[elfmage]

by tech terms isnt all ff game (minus a dew)a rpg

[Brogettenks]

   I voted No.
   Although an RPG in technical terms, it is not in of the same material as most of the previous titles.
   I think that XIII is a testing game, for the developers to test the new graphics enginge they developed. Also if we take in consideration the short length of this game as well the fact that many of the known FF developers missing from this project; this is not an rpg worthy of the Final Fanatasy name.
   Versus on the other hand has similarities in graphics with this title, yet more promising system and mechanics, which is also why i consider XIII to be a test or beta if you like.

[brad100and8]

If you call it an action game and justify it like phoe has just done, then y'know what I'm fine by it. But calling it an FPS?? First, it's not in first person mode, and since when did FPS like Mordecai warfare have ATB bars?? In fact, I agree with phoe that it's an action game due to the fact you're not given one single perspective. In all the older FF games you can easily pick out a protagonist (Zindane, Squall, cloud, tidus, etc.) and as such FF13 no longer becomes a RPG but like it said, "both the layout of the quest and the way players interact with enemies on the field give FFXIII a hybrid feel" True, but by no means whatsoever has it "collided with God of War or bayonetta" by any standards when it comes down to it. You're typical (If there is such a thing) Final Fantasy game gives you that sorta warm fuzzy feeling while god of war makes you want to say something along the lines of; "That was epic...". I'm sorry but these reporters must have been smoking something when they were writing this..

[Robokidoo]

it sure isn't a testing game cause they allready bussy with ff 14 and ff 13 agito and versus it is an rpg in my opinion but just with diferent atb bars and attack options ff 12 was difrent too right? but still an rpg cause you play the role of an hero of whatever and thats what rpg is right? role playing game

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[Pelonenkeli]

Is FF13 a RPG? By today's broad definitions, yes.
But "by old FF standards", no.

But just because it's not old school doesn't mean it's a bad game.

This, Rhynovirus explains it simply.

[Iekae]

I'd have to say that the game is an RPG.  Even though that the game is very linear till the end, it still plays very similar to an RPG. 

[Senter]

I wanted to get a ps3 for FF XIII and KH3 but I decided not to. After I saw the trailler of FF 13 it reminded me awfully much of Final Fantasy The Spirits within, that I didn't even want to try it that eager anymore. Though the guy is right when it comes to Dragon Quest. I truly loved DQ 8. It's a happy go lucky rpg, with a lot of humor. To all FF Fans out there hoping any FF will be like 1 - 10, It won't happen. Dragon Quest will be more your pick. On the other hand, going on the discussion: I consider FF XII to be a BAD rpg. I haven't played 13 so I can't judge on that.
What I'm looking out for is: The Witcher 2. It will be very great. Your actions will definately effect the story, even destroying barrels will have the npc's interract with you. You'll literally move into the world. What's even better is that you can load a save game from the first game and based on your actions on that game, the people will react different to you. You have a lot of choices, a deep storyline, yet short. It is real time, but so is Kingdom Hearts. Is kingdom hearts an rpg? I consider it to be an adventure. When it comes to JRPG's, I love them. Persona 4 really brought back to me what I've missed in FF XII.

Let's not forget: Final Fantasy has a high reputation, they don't necessarily have to bring out a good game, just because it's branded Final Fantasy or Square(-Enix) will do.

[Cloud552000]

 senter there is not kh3 and will not be for along time
chances are it wont come out till the ps3 is allmost dead
(sry for the off topic)

[MisterCrim]

By old FF standards, no this is not an RPG. Mainly because no manner of old FF standards can be applied. The story doesn't feel as epic as most of the FF. Aside from minor characters the blandness permeates the game and only draws even more away from the story. Yes, SE has always tried to be on the cutting edge as far as graphics and game play, but you can try too hard. I'm not going to comment on the battle system because I'd end up writing pages on the good and bad, but suffice it to say i don't mind it so much as everything else. The one thing that stands out as quality for me is the leveling system: The Crystarium. Think of a mixture between the Sphere Grid and the License Board but with personal character restrictions. Yes, eventually everyone can have the same roles (or jobs) but there's a sort of penalty you incur for wandering from the preset path and that's the only drawback of this implementation.

The games biggest problem is that it taunts you throughout with the illusion of freedom (hell, that's one of the plot points.) but finds ways of shoving you back on the straight forward path. Is the game linear? Yes, but you can say that about any game with a story. In every other case, FF, while linear to some degree, still allows you to meander a bit before giving you no choice but to move forward. FFXIII is hyper-linear, the sort of thing you expect from an action or platform game.

So, is FFXII an RPG based on old FF standards. Not even close.

If this game had come with any other name than Final Fantasy, I may have liked it a lot more, but with that label come predetermined standards that FFXIII failed on almost every level.

P.S. Leave the item creation to games that make it interesting.

P.P.S. Please, SE, don't screw up this bad with Versus.

[AdmiralJonB]

In my definitions of an RPG, it's all about options and being able to choose what you do, even if there's only one way to advance the story. It's the same with D&D games and most of the FF games.

As for FFXIII, I wouldn't call it an RPG, but by no means do I think it's an action game. There is no way you can't call it a turn-based game, maybe not in the same ways as the previous FF games. But then I'd say that the Gran Pulse section of FF classes as an RPG based on what I said above.

With my definitions of an RPG, FFX isn't classed as one either (until the end segments once you get the airship).

Out of the PSX RPGs, I'd say FFIX would probably contain the most RPG elements, the fact you can go exploring to different places that weren't necessary, even if there's only one way to move forward with the story. Not to say that VII and VIII had the separate areas to explore, I just felt FFIX had the most.

Well, I could go on, but I'm sure I've said enough to get my opinion across.

[technosapien36]

FFXIII is definitely an RPG, no doubt. and it is the one of the best RPGs ever created!. it has the best story i have ever seen in a game, and the characters are great. i have played through it 3 times, and i loved every minute. it is a instant classic. it is my third favorite FF game behind 12 and 7.

[cookie_army_leader]

I disagree 13 is not an rpg gameplay wise just story wise if speeding threw battles and getting rated on those battles counts as an rpg then you might as well throw devil may cry in that catagory and beyonetta as well

[PastorK86]

The poll is worded oddly in a way. Having written a lot on RPG Game Theory in the past, I'll agree that Final Fantasy 13 is, at a core definition, an RPG. However, is it in the same spirit as the former members of the Final Fantasy series? Absolutely not. It is the way many RPGs are trending nowadays. For some, this is cause for rejoice, but for some of us who remember the good-old-days of the Final Fantasy series, FF 13 can be a bit of a disappointment.

[cookie_army_leader]

no pastor its not that and at its core story it is an rpg its like i said if you say that kind of battle system makes ff13 an rpg then im automaticaly counting every devil may cry like game as an rpg

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